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that was denied by libya. so the fbi has to pass questions from the state department to the libyan government. they put the questions and you wait, sort of like a child's game of telephone, for that information to come back before you can follow up. not the ideal way to run an investigation. >> this is amazing information you are hearing from your sources. i want to play something for our viewers from last thursday. secretary clinton said this about this investigation. let's watch. >> we are at the early stages of an fbi investigation. the team from the fbi reached libya earlier this week. >> so she said they reached libya earlier this week. no mention of being on the ground in benghazi. you are saying they haven't been on the ground in benghazi according to your sources here. is she splitting hairs here? >> in fairness to the secretary, it may be she wanted to be coy about where in libya they were for security concerns. that would be understandable. but the fact is it is not clear they have even been inside o
that was denied by libya. so the fbi has to pass questions from the state department to the libyan government. they put the questions and you wait, sort of like a child's game of telephone, for that information to come back before you can follow up. not the ideal way to run an investigation. >> this is amazing information you are hearing from your sources. i want to play something for our viewers from last thursday. secretary clinton said this about this investigation. let's watch....
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>> you look at the academic stuff of eastern libya. i heard today there are multiple assassinations where people are settling scores of all sorts of strikes. it's chaotic. going back to the fbi, you can't blame them, because there is nobody in control of a very large city in a very big part of libya. so they are, you know -- that's the problem, at the root of it. all the facts point to that. is that nobody is in control. >> a lot of people say well look, you have societies who have been repressed for generations. in a pressure cooker. the box has been opened and a lot of weird things come out of the box. maybe long-term things will move in the right direction as the u.s. sees it. do you buy that? >> the arab spring is a long-term gain. what you have to understand -- look, if it is terrorism that we are seeing and i feel confident based on what we know, it races the question why didn't you see this coming? if there was intelligence of the growing presence of al qaeda in eastern libya, increasing threat of al qaeda. >> on the anniversary
>> you look at the academic stuff of eastern libya. i heard today there are multiple assassinations where people are settling scores of all sorts of strikes. it's chaotic. going back to the fbi, you can't blame them, because there is nobody in control of a very large city in a very big part of libya. so they are, you know -- that's the problem, at the root of it. all the facts point to that. is that nobody is in control. >> a lot of people say well look, you have societies who have...
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intelligence was just getting started in libya. that's where they kept their files and i said the communications gear, which apparently no one can explain what's happened to it. this has never happened to an american embassy since tehran in 1979. it's really catastrophe, it really is. >> i just read another report by a journalist who was able to get into the annex and walk around relatively unfetterred. bob said this operation really hurts the u.s. in libya. do you agree with that? >> no question it really hurts us. look, we don't rely on any single installation or capability in the u.s. intelligence community, so what you have to do now is rely more on all the other capabilities so you'll have signals intelligence, you'll rely on the local force but let's remember, the local force was decimated after the fall of the gadhafi government and so they're just rebuilding. you're not the only intelligence service in libya so you're going to have allies who have intelligence networks there, you're going to have to rely on them. so all of
intelligence was just getting started in libya. that's where they kept their files and i said the communications gear, which apparently no one can explain what's happened to it. this has never happened to an american embassy since tehran in 1979. it's really catastrophe, it really is. >> i just read another report by a journalist who was able to get into the annex and walk around relatively unfetterred. bob said this operation really hurts the u.s. in libya. do you agree with that?...
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they were actually apologizing to america, saying that this is the real libya. the libyans who are going out trying to regain control of their own cities, trying to implement the democracy that they fought so hard for, but then things took a very sinister turn because the second location that they struck, in fact, ended up being the headquarters of a battalion that has been legitimized by the government. the government took to the air waves trying to convince these individuals to back off that and other various compounds saying it was gadhafi loyalists trying to capitalize on the euphoria of the crowd to try to move them towards these other units that were in fact under the control of the government, that were in fact loyal to the government in and of itself. we were at one of these locations, some pretty intense gunfire. we're hearing that over a dozen people were wounded and it just goes to underscore how chaotic and how volatile the situation here really is. and of course, how easily manipulated. >> arwa damon in benghazi, be careful. fran, thank you very muc
they were actually apologizing to america, saying that this is the real libya. the libyans who are going out trying to regain control of their own cities, trying to implement the democracy that they fought so hard for, but then things took a very sinister turn because the second location that they struck, in fact, ended up being the headquarters of a battalion that has been legitimized by the government. the government took to the air waves trying to convince these individuals to back off that...
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bob baer. >>> senator john mccain is a long-time supporter of freedom for libya. he supported president obama's actions to remove gadhafi. he's been critical of how the administration has handled the benghazi aftermath. we spoke earlier today. take a look. what do you make of the response by the administration in the early days of ambassador rice and now what they're saying now, they're now saying it was a terrorist attack. the president did use the word terror early on in the rose garden, but we heard from ambassador rice, who is saying link this to the video. what do you see as going on? >> i see a fundamental misunderstanding in the larger picture and then on the smaller picture. in the smaller picture they were either incredibly naive or willfully deceiving the american people. i don't know which. but to think an attack of this nature with heavy weapons, mortars, and a very sophisticated direct fire and indirect fire, that somehow that could be the result of a spontaneous demonstration is just impossible for me to understand. >> let me just throw in a third op
bob baer. >>> senator john mccain is a long-time supporter of freedom for libya. he supported president obama's actions to remove gadhafi. he's been critical of how the administration has handled the benghazi aftermath. we spoke earlier today. take a look. what do you make of the response by the administration in the early days of ambassador rice and now what they're saying now, they're now saying it was a terrorist attack. the president did use the word terror early on in the rose...
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she recently traveled to libya with her employer, mcandrew and forbes. bob is a former cia officer with deep experience in the middle east and the arab world. also on the phone from tripoli, cnn cnn's jomana karachi. i'm a little surprised, fran, how they can say -- how they are painting what's happening on the ground in libya, especially based on what you're hearing from sources. >> look, anderson, we have not -- this is not the first international terrorism investigation regrettably going back to the east africa embassy bombings in the late '90s, the "uss cole" in 2000. we understand how to do these. the fbi's got protocols about what does it look like when you have to deploy investigators and forensic folks to collect evidence overseas. so this is not the first time they've done it. they understand that in order to do that effectively, you have to have protection on the ground, you've got to have somebody who can do a perimeter. you ask in the first instance the host government to do that. if for some reason the libyan prime minister suggested to arwa
she recently traveled to libya with her employer, mcandrew and forbes. bob is a former cia officer with deep experience in the middle east and the arab world. also on the phone from tripoli, cnn cnn's jomana karachi. i'm a little surprised, fran, how they can say -- how they are painting what's happening on the ground in libya, especially based on what you're hearing from sources. >> look, anderson, we have not -- this is not the first international terrorism investigation regrettably...
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invited into libya and would be provided protection. whether or not the libyan government could have delivered on that promise, we'll never know. what we do know is no fbi agents are in benghazi, according to our reporter. the crime scene remains unprotected and the official line seems to be everything is going fine with the libyan government and the fbi investigation. as we said, new details tonight. national security analyst fran townsend got some of them. so did cnn contributor bob baer. fran is the former white house homeland security advisor. she recently traveled to libya with her employer, mcandrew and forbes. bob is a former cia officer with deep experience in the middle east and arab world. also on the phone from tripoli, cnn's reporter. i'm a little surprised, fran, how they can say -- how they are painting what's happening on the ground in libya, especially based on what you're hearing from sources. >> look, anderson, we have not -- this is not the first international terrorism investigation regrettably going back to the east
invited into libya and would be provided protection. whether or not the libyan government could have delivered on that promise, we'll never know. what we do know is no fbi agents are in benghazi, according to our reporter. the crime scene remains unprotected and the official line seems to be everything is going fine with the libyan government and the fbi investigation. as we said, new details tonight. national security analyst fran townsend got some of them. so did cnn contributor bob baer....
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breaking news tonight in the wake of the libya tragedy. late word tonight from the u.s. state department they're pulling more staffers out of the embassy in tripoli because of security concerns. also tonight, also security related, new details. they're coming in reaction to our exclusive reporting last night on how quickly officials actually suspected that the killing of four americans in benghazi was an act of terror, and how troubled the subsequent investigation into that deadly assault is turning out to be. today, 16 days after the attack, defense secretary leon panetta stated plainly what was obvious to many, including senator john mccain, who joins us shortly, almost from the beginning. >> as we determined the details of what took place there and how that attack took place, that it became clear that there were terrorists who had planned that attack. >> the best we can tell, this is the first time any administration official has uttered the word "planned" to describe what happened. asked how long it took to reach his conclusion, secretary panetta said quote, it took
breaking news tonight in the wake of the libya tragedy. late word tonight from the u.s. state department they're pulling more staffers out of the embassy in tripoli because of security concerns. also tonight, also security related, new details. they're coming in reaction to our exclusive reporting last night on how quickly officials actually suspected that the killing of four americans in benghazi was an act of terror, and how troubled the subsequent investigation into that deadly assault is...
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had an intensive consultations with leaders in the region, leaders of turkey, egypt, israel, yemen, libya and afghanistan. >> that's not enough. i think david is right here. look, the reality is personal chemistry is very important. also remember most of these leaders, you are speaking through an interpreter. as you well know, when you're doing it on the phone, you have an interpreter there, you're doubly or even triply removed from the person. when you meet them in the flesh, even though there are interpreters, it's a much more human interaction and look, he's never met the president of egypt. this is a guy we really need to understand, whether he can bring egypt to a democratic place and a pro-western place while retaining his islamist background. there are issues with turkey, they've got many important issues to deal with. i don't quite understand why this happened, you know. possibly there's some explanation. one part of it may be that this president is very smart, he's very cerebral. he tends not to place a lot of weight on what david was talking about, the person-to-person meetings,
had an intensive consultations with leaders in the region, leaders of turkey, egypt, israel, yemen, libya and afghanistan. >> that's not enough. i think david is right here. look, the reality is personal chemistry is very important. also remember most of these leaders, you are speaking through an interpreter. as you well know, when you're doing it on the phone, you have an interpreter there, you're doubly or even triply removed from the person. when you meet them in the flesh, even though...